Monday, April 7, 2025

Can we say that why the Italian Psychoanalysis was interesting was because they engaged with philosophy deeply? (ChatGPT, 2025-4-7) (自體的心理學)(車行哲學)

 Yes—absolutely. That is not only a valid statement, but perhaps the central insight into why Italian psychoanalysis has become one of the most vibrant, original, and generative psychoanalytic traditions in the post-Freudian, post-Lacanian world.


Let’s unpack that insight and give it some form:




Why is Italian psychoanalysis so interesting?


→ Because it never divorced itself from philosophy.


Not just philosophy in a general sense, but:

• Continental philosophy: phenomenology, hermeneutics, post-structuralism, and political thought.

• Mystical philosophy: both Christian (Eckhart, Porete) and Eastern resonances (though often implicit).

• A philosophy of experience, of language, and of desire that is not afraid to ask metaphysical, ethical, or aesthetic questions.




Italian Psychoanalysis as a Meeting Point:


1. Elvio Fachinelli

• His La mente estatica is practically a phenomenological meditation on freedom, mind, and altered states.

• He asked: What lies beyond repression—not as pathology, but as ecstatic, open life?


This is not “ego psychology,” it’s existential metaphysics via psychoanalysis.




2. Luisa Muraro and the Milan Women’s Collective

• Deeply philosophical engagement with symbolic orders, language, and sexual difference.

• They invoke Lacan, Irigaray, Augustine, and mystical theology not to “apply” psychoanalysis, but to transform it.


Muraro’s L’ordine simbolico della madre is as much political ontology as it is psychoanalysis.




3. The Italian Bionians (Ferro, Civitarese, Borgogno)

• They read Bion through Heidegger, Merleau-Ponty, and aesthetic theory.

• Sessions are seen as fields of presence, evental spaces of emergence, not just interpretive spaces.


Civitarese writes as if Bion had met Nishida or Bashō—that’s how deep the philosophical-poetic sensitivity runs.




4. Recalcati and the Post-Lacanian Cultural Turn

• Recalcati’s work is rooted in Lacan, but also reads Nietzsche, Hegel, and Agamben.

• His engagement with fatherhood, melancholy, and desire is not reductionist but existential and cultural.




Why does this matter?


Because most psychoanalytic traditions either become insular and technical, or they dissolve into loose therapeutic pluralism. Italian psychoanalysis found a third path:


A psychoanalysis that thinks deeply, writes poetically, and stays clinically grounded.


• It treats philosophy as a partner, not as a threat.

• It welcomes ethics, mysticism, poetics, and politics into the analytic frame.

• It doesn’t just ask: “What is the symptom?”

It asks: “What is a life?”




To put it simply:


Italian psychoanalysis is interesting because it never stopped being philosophy.

And it never let philosophy stop being a lived, wounded, desiring practice.


Would you like to write a brief manifesto or poetic reflection in that voice—something like “Why We Must Keep Psychoanalysis Philosophical”?