Todd DuBose (How does narrative heal？)

https://www.thechicagoschool.edu/faculty-finder/byname/todd_dubose/

https://www.amazon.com/-/zh_TW/dp/B08J442K2T/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=todd+dubose&qid=1619261350&sr=8-1

所見略同 

He used the term P-H-E too.