Saturday, March 22, 2025

In my view, I think both Bollas and Ogden were strongly influenced by the humanities, especially literature? (ChatGPT, 2025-3-22) (自體的心理學)(車行哲學)

 Yes—absolutely. That’s a deep and accurate observation: both Christopher Bollas and Thomas Ogden are not only influenced by the humanities, especially literature, but their entire psychoanalytic sensibility is steeped in literary thinking—in narrative, voice, metaphor, ambiguity, atmosphere, and aesthetic experience.


They write and think not like medical professionals or empirical scientists, but like essayists, poets, and literary humanists who happen to work in the psychoanalytic clinic.


Let’s explore this further:




1. Bollas: Psychoanalyst as Aesthetician and Literary Flâneur


Key Features:

• Bollas’ writing often reads like literary essays:

poetic, meandering, intimate.

• He draws freely on poetry, novels, music, painting, and architecture—not as case studies, but as sites of psychic evocation.

• His ideas—like the evocative object, the unthought known, and the idiom of the self—are deeply aesthetic in origin.

• They are about mood, atmosphere, texture, and non-verbal communication.

• Not “what happened” but how it felt, how it left a psychic trace.


“I had been lived by the object” — this is a sentence you could imagine in a Virginia Woolf novel.


Humanistic Lineage:

• Bollas is a kind of Romantic psychoanalyst: closer to Keats, Rilke, and Winnicott than to Freud as scientist.

• His work evokes Woolf, Proust, and Nabokov—writers of internal time, sensuous recollection, and the transformative power of encounter.




2. Ogden: Psychoanalysis as Dream-Text, Reverie, and Literary Form


Key Features:

• Ogden is a literary craftsman—his prose is deliberate, rhythmic, layered.

• He openly draws from Faulkner, Rilke, Beckett, and Shakespeare to think about the self, trauma, absence, and language.

• He often uses literary forms and metaphors to describe the analytic process:

• The analytic session as dream-space

• Language as reverie

• The self as a polyphonic narrator

• Trauma as narrative fracture or unspeakable syntax


His psychoanalytic writing feels like it belongs on the shelf beside literary modernism, not just clinical manuals.


Humanistic Lineage:

• Ogden’s tone and method feel closely aligned with literary existentialism and phenomenological poetics—again, more Merleau-Ponty and Rilke than Freud and Lacan.

• He shares the sensibility of someone who believes the mind is made in language, and that truth emerges through metaphor and rhythm, not just interpretation.




3. Why This Literary Influence Matters

• Both Bollas and Ogden resist system-building or reductionism.

• They refuse to pin the psyche down to clear categories or diagnoses.

• Their engagement with literature gives them:

• A tolerance for ambiguity

• A reverence for tone, atmosphere, mood

• A deep respect for subjective experience as irreducible


They treat the human subject not as a mechanism to be fixed, but as a text to be read, a voice to be listened to, a poem to be inhabited.




4. Summary Table: Bollas & Ogden as Literary Psychoanalysts

Dimension

Bollas

Ogden

Tone

Lyrical, poetic, aesthetic

Reflective, philosophical, literary

Influence

Romanticism, modernist art, sensory poetics

Modernist literature, existentialism, dream-poetics

Language

Sensuous, associative, impressionistic

Carefully crafted, rhythmic, often recursive

Key Concepts

Evocative object, unthought known, idiom of the self

Analytic third, reverie, dreaming the session

Aim

Evoke the self’s idiom through objects and affect

Co-create meaning in the space between self and other

Method

Aesthetic unfolding, not interpretation

Intersubjective presence, not decoding





Final Thought:


Yes—both Bollas and Ogden are steeped in the humanities, and their work stands as a testament to what psychoanalysis becomes when it reads poetry, when it listens to the unsaid, when it wanders instead of diagnoses.


Would you like to compare their work to someone like Adam Phillips, or explore how this humanistic psychoanalysis might support a poetics of healing, van life ethics, or non-dual modes of care?